Does "data-driven marketing" from digital agencies sometimes feel like an empty buzzword? Get the real story from Tommy Anderson, a sales exec at Bateman Collective who has an insider's perspective.

In this candid conversation, Tommy pulls back the curtain on how top-tier agencies truly operate. He explains why choosing the cheapest option is often a mistake, even if their metrics look good initially. You'll hear honest talk about setting proper expectations, investing for long-term success, and identifying the true experts amid a crowded field.

Whether you're an investor feeling misled or simply want to up your marketing knowledge, this open discussion is a must-listen. Stop falling for hollow claims and start insisting on authentic, sustainable digital marketing results.

0:00 - Introduction 
2:30 - Tommy's role at Bateman Collective 
4:00 - The difficulty of Tommy's job 
6:40 - Setting proper expectations with clients 
8:35 - Tommy's background and journey
14:30 - Tommy's experience in the short-term rental industry 
18:15 - Why Tommy joined Bateman Collective 
20:00 - Brandon's perspective on having great team members 
22:15 - Tommy's view of the real estate investor space 
25:20 - Addressing common investor beliefs about digital marketing 
29:45 - Explaining Bateman's data-driven approach 
33:40 - Trusting the right agency vs looking at metrics 
36:20 - Investing in continual product improvement

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